bakaagain (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

The Toyota is a fascist company which suppress freedom of speech.

Watcher3223 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

First, I'm not asking you to report anything to me but asking you to make your argument more convincing to EVERYONE who may read your response. Again, you're the one who made the claim.FYI, I tried to find the information myself and I can't find it. All I can locate is that Consumer Reports is a division of the Consumers Union, which is a non-profit organization based in Yonkers, N.Y.I'm asking you to find that info since you seem to know it all.So, prove it or your claim is bullshit.

stylin440 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

I don't have to report anything to you. Fuck off. Find it yourself.

stylin440 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

you and your father are sellouts and should be shot as traitors and criminals. Who is number 1? GM. Fuck off driving your plastic shitbox sellout car

Watcher3223 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Okay, you've just made a claim about Consumer Reports being held by a Japanese company.Prove it.You made the claim, now the burden is on you to validate it. Otherwise, your claim is hearsay and will be treated as such.While I don't consider Consumer Reports an authority on many things by a long shot, it's only fair that a request for evidence is made and expected to be honored to justify your accusations that try to suggest a serious conflict of interest as a way to explain their opinions.

Watcher3223 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

You reduce costs by always finding ways to improve efficiency and quality while always finding ways to reduce the waste of material, time, and energy.That's roughly the Toyota way.Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Watcher3223 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

My thought was that those foreign companies were investing in employing a workforce in the USA, earning those incentives while the big 3 was intent in outsourcing their work out of the USA, taking jobs AWAY from Americans.The culture of leadership at the big 3 AND the UAW is not responsive and is rubbish.And, because of their pride and stuck-up attitudes, they'll never change because either they'll get bailed out and never learn to change or they'll change when it's too little, too late.

Watcher3223 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Not only the auto companies, but also the representation of the workers.Both are stuck in the land that time forgot, as if it were the 1960s.I recall a news conference by a UAW representative who tried to make a point about how Hyundai, Mercedes-Benz, Toyota, and Honda were getting multi-million dollar incentives while the big three were struggling to get a $25 billion bailout and how that was wrong.

michaelkirk23 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Stylin440...stop making Americans look like flag wearing dumbasses. You are obviously not educated on the automotive industry and if you did your homework you would know that GM and Ford are way behind. My father owned a Toyota dealership and I work as a service manager at another dealership. US cars are fucking junk. Look at the NUMBERS you redneck!!

mageever (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

This is a great point. The Toyota Production System has it's org' chart flipped upside down so that the production worker is on top and then everybody else is below supporting them. They're the ones adding value to the car and in the end have the most impact on what a customer wants. Management should be there to support them. American auto companies need some SERIOUS culture change. It's gonna hurt.